September 16, 2016

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The other day I listened to this audio titled: The Remnant which was very profound to me. At the beginning of this audio the author Mike Stroud talked about the last audio he did titled  Neutralized. He said some things about this audio that I felt I should hear. I felt the spirit very strong so I transcribed the audio into text with some of the things that stood out to me.

Remember: It’s not all or nothing. Take those things that resonate with you and those that don’t it’s OK. Let the spirit discern those things your meant to hear and those your not.

Here’s some of my notes.

Most of the Melchizedek Priesthood of the church has been effectively Neutralized.

Definition: render ineffective or harmless.
Synonyms: counteract, offset, counterbalance, disarmed. neutered. 


More Reading: The Power of the Priesthood (Boyd K. Packer)

Now this comes for a number of reasons. One major reason I believe is that we have become casual in our approach to the doctrines of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Lucifer puts us to sleep to a degree that we think we know and enjoy all there is.

Yet what I want to propose is what we’re seeking for in the church is foundational and is to come and attain something more significant.

Everything in the Gospel is designed to move us in a transitional way from something lower to something higher.


If you can grab hold of that concept and that principle it really makes a lot of things that we see in the church and around us makes sense.

For Example:

We’re continually talking to the members of the church about paying tithing. We talk about Malachi chapter 3:8 will a man rob God and we talk about Section 1:19.

We quote all these scriptures and that’s good and that’s appropriate. But if people could understand that tithing is a principle that’s trying to transition us from something less to something greater. From something lower to something higher.

If we could understand that tithing is a transitional principle to try and take us to something better than we might find a little better success on the principle.

Instead of making people feel guilty that they’re robbing God. oh my gosh I don’t want to rob God. Well you’re robbing God if you don’t pay your tithing. So we sometimes shame you into it or make you feel guilty.

Or we can teach them that everything you’re being taught in the Gospel is designed to transition you from where you’re at to something higher more profound and with greater blessings. 16:00 min

Then this is a different view of things. Same with the priesthood. The Lord has so many different things. Same with the church.  The church Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is not the end result.

You’re looking for membership in a different church. As you join the Church you’re not through. You’re just beginning.

It’s foundational. It’s transitional. It is trying to transition you from membership in this organization into membership into the Church of the Firstborn.

Sidenote: This was one of the first times I had heard this concept so I looked up all the scripures that backs up this principle and here’s some of the references – Heb 12:23, D&C 76:54, 67, 71, 94, 102, D&C 78:21, D&C 88:5, D&C 93:21-22, D&C107:19.

Your next step is membership in the Church of the Firstborn. When you came into this church you came in through a process of investigation and you were given certain things to study.

Find yourself

There were missionaries that instructed you and moved you forward. They gave you challenges of made you promises and taught you principles.

Then they taught you how to go to God and get an answer as to the truthfulness of the whole message of the restoration.

Well you’re now involved right now in investigating the Church of the Firstborn. Everything that we teach on this podcast is designed to introduce you into the Church of the Firstborn.

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The temple is the beginning of instruction and ordinances in the Church of the Firstborn.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has been referred to as the outer church. We used to have a hymn that we sang that is not in the hymn book anymore called the outward church below and we need to be part of the outward church below.

Below is the terrestrial world that’s the below and the outward church is a physical outward institution that is run by mortal men and women. That is the outer church.

When you enter the temple the first ordinance you participate in is the initiatory. The Initiatory is an initiation. Your being initiated into something else.

You’re now leaving the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and you’re being initiated into the Church of the Firstborn which is by the way is the inward church above.

So you got the outward church below and you got the inward Church above.

Celestial terrestrial and telestial

The above is Terrestrial it’s the next estate. It’s Millennial third estate. You are now in a mortal Telestial second estate and the next estate is millennial Terrestrial estate third Estate and the organization of that is the Church of the Firstborn. 18:42

At the temple most of the ceremony is the Adam and Eve scene where they are being separated from the presence of God and Jesus. This part takes almost 40 minutes and then progressed to the different stages but that scene doesn’t come off.

This type of repetition is something that has to be done for us to change. To not become hardhearted and fall behind. 19:30 min

So what we doing in the initiatory is a four booth and staged ordinance. Each one of the four booths represent the four estates of probation.

The first one is your pre-mortal life (1st Estate).

The second booth is mortality (2nd Estate).

The third booth is the millennial terrestrial world (3rd Estate)

Fourth booth is the celestial kingdom where Heavenly Father dwells (4th Estate).

Well you’re being taught that as you go through. All of this is designed to introduce you into something else.

The member of the church that never makes it to the temple his membership is frustrated because the purpose of membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is foundational and is designed to transition you  into the Church of the Firstborn.

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Brigham Young said:

All the ordinances of the temple are ordinances of the church of the Firstborn.  So what you’re there being instructed in is how to obtain step by step through ordinances the Church of the Firstborn.

Resources: Church of the Firstborn (

When you become a member of the Church of the Firstborn.  You have entered into the rest of the Lord. 20:30

Alma 13:11-12 (1-9 is talking about pre-mortal life. 10 -31 is talking about this life).

11 Therefore they were called after this holy order, and were sanctified, and their garments were washed white through the blood of the Lamb.
12 Now they, after being sanctified by the Holy Ghost, having their garments made white, being pure and spotless before God, could not look upon sin save it were with abhorrence; and there were many, exceedingly great many, who were made pure and entered into the rest of the Lord their God.

The rest of the Lord is a Terrestrial place. You have membership in the church of the Firstborn. You have obtained a higher order of the priesthood. You have had heavenly hands laid upon you. You have obtained promises from God himself with his own mouth calling you by your name which is your first trip to the veil.

The first time you go up to the veil of the temple you go there twice. The first time you go it is to obtain from God promises. You speak with him through the veil. You don’t see him you hear his voice and then the second time you go up to the veil you enter into his presence.

The first trip to the veil is called “Making your calling and election sure” it’s the same as the more sure word of prophecy where you obtain from him personally, intimately calling you by name and your hearing his voice but not seeing his presence you obtain promises.

That effectively brings you into and makes you a member of the Church of the Firstborn and opens the door for you now have the next level which is called the second comforter where you have a personal encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ personally. 23:38 min

When those things happen you have obtained membership in the Church of the Firstborn and have entered into the rest of the Lord.

One of the names of the Holy Ghost and one of the names of Christ is the comforters. They comfort you. I believe Heavenly Father is also a comforter although it’s not referred to in scripture.

The first comforter is a Holy Ghost and the second comforter is Jesus Christ himself. Meaning that you are in no more turmoil. You have no more questions concerning your standing. You have obtained promises that give you an inheritance with the Lord and part and portion with him.

At that point you are at rest concerning your status with him and your future with him. Your at rest. There is no more concern. Your comforted, consoled and are at rest. There is no more turmoil concerning my standing with God.

The Church is trying to bring us up to this point and last General Conference a remarkable thing took place.


A talk was given by President Russell M. Nelson titled: The Price of Priesthood Power. It was you opening address of the priesthood session.

There are a few things I want to point out of Fears that he had.

“I fear that there are too many men who have been given the authority of the priesthood but who lack priesthood power because the flow of power has been blocked by sins such laziness, dishonesty, pride, immorality or preoccupation with the things of the world”.

Now think of the word Neutralized.

D&C 121:34-35

34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?

You need to ask yourself the question what does it mean to be called and what does it mean to be chosen and why are they not chosen? He gives a reason.

35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson—

Neutralized! Their hearts are set up on the things of this world.

So we disqualify ourselves from the upper level blessings because of these reasons.

Your hearts are set upon the things of the world and aspire for the honors of men. Laziness, dishonesty, pride, immorality and a preoccupation with worldly things.

Here’s President Nelson’s second fear.

I fear there are too many priesthood bearers who have done little or nothing to develop their ability to access the powers of heaven.

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You see there’s a difference between being ordained to the priesthood and having priesthood power. There’s only one place anywhere where this term power in the priesthood is mentioned and that’s at the most sacred place at the most sacred moment at the veil in the temple of the Lord.

It’s the only place that terms power in the priesthood. So his second fear is that to many priesthood bearers have done little or nothing to develop their ability and axis the powers of heaven. 27:24

The third fear. I fear that many have surrendered their agency to the adversary and are saying by their conduct I care more about satisfying my own desires than I do about bearing the Savior’s power to bless others.

That’s fear number three. We surrender our agency.


So who neutralizes us? We do!! We make choices that take away light. Light and truth are the same things. They’re not different things. Light is truth and truth is light.

Sun light

D&C 88:7 comes out and says truth shineth.

7 Which truth shineth. This is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made.

Because truth is light and it’s the food of righteousness. That’s what causes us to thrive. 28:20 min

He goes on to say:

I  fear brethren that some among us may one day wake up and realize what power in the priesthood really is and face the deep regret that they spent far more time seeking power over others or power at work then learning to exercise fully the power of God.

This talk is a shift in the direction of the church. I believe that this is a major shift by the prophets and apostles to move us to a place where we are not yet and have not been and as a matter of fact losing ground to get there. 29:00

Now I’ve got this underlined, capitalized bold and in red. Listen carefully

I urgently plead with each one of us to live up to our privileges as bearers of the priesthood. In a coming day (I want to testify to you that that day is near) only those men who have taken their priesthood seriously by diligently seeking to be taught by the Lord Himself…

Now if you’re like me before I was tuned in to these things. I would say, oh that’s nice Christ will teach me through his prophets and through his apostles through my bishop and through my stake president. Anywhere but himself. 30 min

I want you to not wrestle with that scripture. Don’t wrestle with this. Take it at face value because that’s the way President Nelson wanted it to be taken.

There’s more.

Only those who take their priesthood seriously by diligently seeking to be taught by the Lord Himself will be able to bless, guide, protect, strengthen, and heal others.

So if you want to bless, guide, protect strengthen and heal others. You have to have an encounter with Christ and be taught by him.

Only a man who has paid the price for priesthood power will be able to bring miracles to those he loves and keep his marriage and family safe now and throughout eternity. What a blessing that is!


Now at the end of that same priesthood session President Monson get’s up.

He gives a talk titled: A Sacred Trust. 

I’m telling you there was a shift. The Lord is working through his servants to wake us up and RISE UP.


He tells the story. He says during World War II a friend of mine was serving in the South Pacific. When his plane was shot down over the ocean. He and the other crew members successfully parachuted from the burning plane inflated their little rafts and clung to those rafts for three days.

On the third day they saw what they knew to be rescue vessel that passed by them. The next morning it passed by there again. They began to despair as they realize that this was the last day the rescue vessel would be in the area.

Then the Holy Spirit spoke to my friend quote:

“You have the Priesthood. Command the rescuers the pick you up. He did as prompted. In the name of Jesus Christ and by the power of the priesthood  turn about and pick us up”.

Within a few minutes the vessel was beside him helping them on deck. A faithful and bearer of the priesthood in and here’s a key in his extremity exercised that priesthood blessing his life and the lives of others. 32 min

We are not going to come up to this level without extraordinary experiences. You’re just not going to do that.

Are you willing to do that?

Are you willing to pay the price?

Are you willing to sacrifice and do whatever’s necessary to have power over the elements?

Lets look at Jacob 4. The Nephites were amazing through this priesthood order that they had. The message is we have access to this. There is no reason why we can’t have this same thing the holy order. You’re introduced and taught the beginning teachings of the holy order that takes place in the temple. 33:15

It begins with an ordinance call the initiatory.

Jacob 4:5 talking about the prophets.

5 Behold, they believed in Christ and worshiped the Father in his name, and also we worship the Father in his name. And for this intent we keep the law of Moses, it pointing our souls to him; and for this cause it is sanctified unto us…

I believe the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is to us what the Law of Moses was to the Nephites. It’s pointing us towards something higher. (Wow! Very profound)

6 Wherefore, we search the prophets, and we have many revelations and the spirit of prophecy; and having all these witnesses we obtain a hope, and our faith becometh unshaken, insomuch that we truly can command in the name of Jesus and the very trees obey us, or the mountains, or the waves of the sea.

Now that’s where we need to be. Sisters your job is to help your husband come up to that level of priesthood power. He can’t reach this level unless he meets the Lord.

Sisters you are  helpme not a help mate and for you and your husband to enjoy this level of priesthood power and blessings. You have to work together.

Sisters help your husband meet the Lord so he can have that encounter and you’ll be blessed with the riches of eternity as you do that.

Can you see how easy it is to neutralize this whole thing and to stop this?

Can you see that being casual is the one thing in your membership that neutralizes you?

Can you see the problem with thinking that you have everything that the Lord has to offer through your membership?

Just because you’re not hearing it in General Conference or spoken by the brethren doesn’t mean it’s not there. The Brethren speak of the lesser portion of the word.

Everything you hear in church. Everything you hear in general conference. Every manual, every lesson, every talk is the lesser portion of the word.

Now if you won’t harden your heart and one of the way you harden your heart is that you assume that what you’re hearing is all there is. If you won’t harden your heart and ask seek and knock for more.

The Lord will began step by step to present you to the greater portion of the word which he refers to as the Mysteries of God.

Heartening your heart means you refuse to listen to and heed the promptings of the Light of Christ the Holy Spirit. 36:29

You make a choice to not heed that light that’s hardening your heart. If you heart is hard all you will ever have is the lesser portion and once more if you continue to harden your heart and even the lesser portion will begin to fade until what you know you lose that and you come to a state where you know nothing.

That’s what Alma in chapter 12 calls the chains of hell.

Now let’s close up by going to Joseph Smith translation (JST) located right after the bible dictionary. 37 min

You have for-ordination and an election to these things. Satan wants to neutralize that and he does it through many many devices. 37:37


I told a group of people in a gospel doctrine class I was teaching today that if the savior were to come into our class tonight and visit us he would love us and bless us and smile and maybe have a nice little chuckle with us because he’s cheerful. He has a great sense of humor and he likes to laugh.

But what he would say is this:

My dear brothers and sisters let me get serious with you for just a moment just for a second.

Here’s what he’d say:

Christ Thumb Nail

You live way below your privileges and my expectations.

That’s what he say. He would say it in a loving and kind way but it would prick us to the center and we would know that it was true.

Neutralized!! Living below your privileges and below the expectations of the Holy Father and his son. Neutralized! 38:40

JST Genesis 14:25-40 

This is talking about the higher order that the B of M is talking about the Holy order. Here’s some of the things they can do there which are wonderful that we talked about before.  

Let’s go to verse 28. This is a covenant and a ordination that God makes.

28 It being after the order of the Son of God; which order came, not by man, nor the will of man; neither by father nor mother; neither by beginning of days nor end of years; but of God;

This is not something you obtain by man or an institution. This has to come from God.

29 And it was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will, unto as many as believed on his name.

Remember when we talked about hearing the voice of God. That’s what this is. You’ve received this through the calling of his own voice, according to his own will

Jesus laying on hands

Let me stop and just share something the Spirit taught me this last week that was potent.

I don’t know about you but I have trouble with patience.  Patience is tough on me. I know about these things and I want them. Oh how I want them and I say those words in my prayer I’m willing to wait patiently.

I know it will come according to thy will and thy own way and thy own due time. I can say those words but inside I’m impatient and I find myself asking:

why does he not give me these things?  He’s told me that if I will ask in faith nothing doubting that he will give me whatever is expedient in him. Why hasn’t he do that.

Here’s what the Spirit taught me in answer to prayer.

Everything comes in equal opposites. So if you’re asking for a blessing from God that could be measured on a scale of 1 to 10.

Let’s say a blessing you’re seeking for is a level 5 blessing. Then by eternal law there has to be a number 5 in opposition from the evil side to the blessing received from God.

Side Note: Video Ascension and Descension.

If you’re receiving a blessing at 5. You can’t expect opposition to be at number 2 nor will it be at 6 or 7 but it will be at 5.

Now here’s the Question:

Heavenly Father wants to give you that 5 blessing. But can you handle the trial and the adversity that always accompanies the which also is at a 5? Are you prepared for that?

In my case the Spirit says Mike I’ve got this blessing for you. But here’s the opposite at the same level and that my son you’re not ready for. 42 min

Heavenly Father and Jesus  are not in the business of damning, destroying and losing you. They are in the business of exalting and saving you but eternal law demands equal time.

This was taught by the early brethren and you can see it in play in the Book of Job in the first two chapters.

So you know what/  I’m satisfied and I willing to wait because I know that I’m being prepared for the opposite of the blessings I seek.

When the time comes and  the Lord gives me those blessings  it will be because in the wisdom of him that knows all.

I am ready and I won’t be spiritually destroyed by the experience.

Going back Joseph Smith’s translation. Verse 29

29 And it (meaning this order which the B of M calls the Holy Order)  was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will, unto as many as believed on his name.

30 For God having sworn unto Enoch and unto his seed with an oath by himself (not an oath from a mortal but direct from God’s mouth); that every one being ordained after this order and calling should have power, by faith, to break mountains, to divide the seas, (think about the Nephites in Jacob 4)  to dry up waters, to turn them out of their course;

31 To put at defiance the armies of nations (this is one we could be looking at before long), to divide the earth, to break every band, to stand in the presence of God (2nd comforter); to do all things according to his will, according to his command, subdue principalities and powers; and this by the will of the Son of God which was from before the foundation of…

Those are the things you can accomplish that God has in store if we will seek for them and they begin by an initiatory ordinance in the temple.

 All of this begins that day that you entered the temple and received an initiation into what?

The Church of the Firstborn.

Do you have membership in it? No but by the time you do have membership you can do these things. These things accompany membership in the Church of the firstborn.  Now look at the last verse.

32 And men having this faith, coming up unto this order of God, were translated and taken up into heaven.

So what’s the purpose of all this the purpose of all this?

To inspire us to seek for something higher. That is always the core of our lessons. To always seek more.

I spoke at a funeral yesterday to a dear sister that I’ve known for years who was 88.  Our last conversations was that you leave this life with an advantage. It’s all about advantages and disadvantages.

The more of an advantage you can attain while you’re in mortality behind the veil in a fallen world called hell the more of an advantage you can obtain there and then the greater will be your glory  and your progress in the world to come.

We have to seek for everything that we can and never be satisfied with less! Never!

Let me close by quoting President Nelson:

I urgently plead to each one of us to live up to our privileges as bearers of the priesthood. In a coming day only those men who have taken their priesthood seriously by diligently seeking to be taught by the Lord himself will be able to bless, guide, protect and strengthen and heal others.

Only a man who has paid the price for priesthood power will be able to bring miracles to those he loves and keep his marriage and family safe now and throughout eternity.

One of the last things he said with how we do this. He says a bunch of basics: study your scriptures, go to the temple etc…

If you truly want more priesthood power. You will cherish and care for your wife embracing  both her and her counsel. 


All the Best to you and your family!

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